Sunday, August 2, 2009

I just bought a new puppy from a breeder and found out more than 1 puppy has toxidia. Should I return the pup?

Is it a sign of bad breeding? Will it effect my kids?
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The puppy I just bought has toxidia as well. Just take the puppy to the vet and they'll give you some antibiotics to give her.
Based on what my vet said, toxidia and giardia are the two most common parasites found in puppies. If I remember correctly, giardia is the one that you or your kids can catch, not toxidia. Just to be safe, make sure you clean up immediately after your dogs eliminates, and wash your hands every time you pick up after her.
I would suggest getting the puppy to a vet immediately. The vet can answer your questions.
Toxidia or coccidia? If coccodia,its fairly common in pups and can be treated fairly easily. Not a sign of bad breeding..
I think you mean Coccidia. It's common and puppies can spread it to each other easily - not a sign of bad breeding. Not a problem for your kids. I might ask the breeder to pay for the treatment.
Number 1, never ever buy a puppy from a breeder or pet shop! You just bought a "puppy mill" puppy! If you don't know what a puppy mill is, visit my 360 page:
http://360.yahoo.com/raysloveslave...
Read my blog dated yesterday, 8/6/07, and then click on the link at the bottom, below the "stop puppy mills" ribbon!
Number 2, if the puppy is sick, DO NOT return it to the breeder, because they do not care about the health of their dogs, this is OBVIOUS!! Take the puppy to your local humane society or ASPCA , IMMEDIATELY!!
DEMAND your money back, and then report the breeder to your local humane society ASAP for running a puppy mill!
PLEASE visit my 360 page and read about puppy mills, and the absolute TORTURE these animals go through!!
Toxidia?
I think you might mean coccidia? You can treat that easily. Many puppies get it. It has nothing to do with genetics. You just need a sulpha based drug such as Albon. It is a common problem in puppies, especially those who are kept outside.
And contrary to the crap the last poster is flinging, it is not a sign of abuse, neglect or anything else. Lots of puppies have it. Shelters have huge problems with coccidia and giardia.
Hello; This is a commonality in puppies, and poses no danger to you or your children. Dogs "germs %26 bacteria" are non-transferable to humans. One reason for the myth "dogs have clean-antiseptic mouths" they don't, it's just that their bacteria is not transferable to humans, as ours isn't transferable to them. That's not to say the bacteria in their waste doesn't pose potential health problems; always wash after cleaning up after them!
Get the pups to a vet, and get them the good start on life, that they deserve. Whenever I have taken a dog, I have made a mental commitment to myself to give them the best life possible, I only hope more people do the same! The fact that you've come here to ask about things you're unfamiliar with, shows you care, and that's a great start! I wish dogs %26 kids both came with manuals, but they don't. I would urge you, and anyone else you know to keep coming back here, and learning as much as possible.
I hope this has helped!;
Marcos
I think you mean coccidia. It's not caused by bad breeding and your children cannot catch it from your dog. Coccidia is common and easily treated with Albon or Tribrissen. Take your dog to the vet so the necessary meds can be given.
I'm not certain what "toxidia" is.. never heard of it.
Talk to your vet.
Coccidia are a single cell organism that can cause diarrhea. Some dog's fecal samples test positive for it even without the diarrhea.
There are mixed opinions about whether to treat a dog that is asymptomatic (without symptoms). Its often treated with sulfa drugs (to which some breeds such as Samoyeds have shown a sensitivity) which inhibits the growth of the coccidia while the dog's immune system deals with the problem.
The drugs slow the coccidia down.. they do not "cure" it. The dog's immune system is what finally handles the issue.
Many people approach the issue a bit more holistically and decrease food intake or change to an easy to digest mixture of boiled hamburger with rice as well as give live culture yoghurt mixed with acidophilus to support a more normal intestinal flora.
Strangely enough, while people who I show dogs with have had their dogs pick up coccidia while at a dogshow. I have been lucky and never had my dogs catch it (or at least show symptoms) since I started raw feeding. I wonder if its a result of a stronger intestinal flora or just dumb luck? (I'll knock on wood now.. since we're headed for a show this weekend).
http://www.marvistavet.com/html/body_coc...
if you're talking about coccidia, its so common in the soil that virtually every pup gets it then developes the antibodies against it -- except maybe the pupymill pups raised on wire and they'll get it as soon as they touch the ground at your house.
the kids are already exposed if they touch the ground..
If you feel you must return the pup - the next one should be stuffed..

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  2. I have to post to the one who told you that you bought from a puppy mill. 1rst of all you need to do your homework better. My dogs sleep with me get regular vet care and are fully vaccinated. Yet they came down with parvo which is far worse. Lost a few of my babies and they were fully vaccinated. When I was talking to the vet they finally admitted dogs can still get it even with full vaccines. Grown dogs. It is unlikely but it can happen. Furthermore, they can recontract it just by going outside after it rains. I told them my babies do not go outside at all. At that point they admitted a secret. We can bring the diseases in on our feet. We can pick it up on our shoes and transmit it to the dogs if the dogs so as dogs do and sniff everything and pick up their toys off the floor. All dogs do this. This does not mean it was a puppy mill. It could have been a responsible breeder. You have no fact to prove otherwise. My vet told me bleach your feet everytime you go in and out of the house. That way you do not bring viruses in to the dogs. Yet, most people take their dogs for walks. That kills your argument completely. They are immediately exposed to every disease any other dog in the area has. No way to prevent that. If parvo is that contagious and coccidia is that contagious, stop attacking breeders. Just give factual information. Parvo can be easily transmitted through fecal matter and infected soil especially after it rains so can coccidia that is according to every vet I have talked with. Do the responsible thing get them proper health care and vaccines if need be. However do not stop there, make sure the ground is dry before you let them out. Less a chance of contracting disease. Not no chance just less. If they are indoors, like mine, bleach your feet going in the house. That way you do not bring the diseases in on you. However, stop attacking breeders they may sleep with their dogs in beds treat them like royalty and be trying to earn a honest living while breeding the dogs in the side to make ends meet or they may live in a mansion and be breeding show dogs for obtaining a better quality in the breed and still have their puppies or dogs contract this just by letting them out. Get your facts before you judge. I did the hard way. You are wrong not only puppy mills can give these diseases to these babies. We all can!

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    1. By the way, one more question. If you do not buy from a pet shop or a breeder, who do you get your pets from if you want full blooded pets?

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